Episode #87 Payton Kane Interview
AJ Harbinger
April 6, 2009
Payton Kane joins us to explain where most men are failing with women.
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AJ Harbinger was introduced to the world of social dynamics by Jordan Harbinger in 2004. Before then, the concept of social dynamics was an idea AJ had never considered or even knew existed. Upon introduction, his interest was immediately piqued. AJ & Jordan carried out a variety of social experiments while attending the University of Michigan, which apprised them of their aptitude in the field. From there they went on to produce PickUp Podcast and SiriusXM Radio.
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I listened to the first 5 minutes and realized this guy preaches a school of thought that is counter to what is generally taught here. I liked the intro music though!
This interview was a bit painful for a few reasons.First of all this guy reminds me of a sleazy Billy Mays (Rest in Peace). Voice, tone, screaming fits, sales pitch and all. This man should be on late night infomercials scamming old folks of their pensions, all he needs is some catch phrase and he’s good to go. How about “The Sluttier, the Better!” No? Well, I’m sure he’ll think of a good one.
All joking aside my point is that within seconds of of the interview I could tell this guy was no social guru, or helpful wingman. He is a salesman. Lets start with his statement that “picking up women should be fun, so I take my students on a vacation…” At their expense of course. If this doesn’t scream SCAM on everyone’s radar, I don’t know what does. But wait there’s more…He goes on to mock those guys who spend time in classrooms and doing missions and completely disregards the value in a bit of study as to WHY the stuff that happens in the field works. First red flag noted.
Secondly, although he tries to explain his method of teaching and describe how it is superior to all others (yet to be seen), he fails not only to differentiate himself among ANY of the dating methods or coaches, and further offends by pitching a hacked up, dimmed down version of every seduction model we’ve ever heard of. And if that weren’t bad enough, he contradicts himself while talking about how to pick up strippers! “Don’t make lasting eye contact with a stripper, make her think you’ve just looked at the ugliest thing in the world” then a few sentences later…”If you make eye contact, smile and wink a little” Interesting. So just do the opposite of what you just said…
There were several points where he was actually shouting at AJ & Jordan about men simply needing to have some balls and grow a pair, while trying to avoid the legitimate probing question they asked him about his “method.”
Hats off to both of them for staying on task here and plowing through the interview along when clearly, they were dealing with a fraud.
AV